It was too heavy for regular use on the battlefield by untrained troops and not suitable for mass production. by gewehrdork » 06 Oct 2004, 00:06, Post To counter the lack of effectiveness against hard targets such as tanks and buildings, a common solution was created in the form of an improvised "bundle charge". The only significant alterations in the M43's design was the inclusion of a self-contained detonator, meaning that the fuse and the explosive were directly linked. Some of these, like the Maschinengewehr 42, were more than a success on the level of resources, but many were only simpler and less-expensive versions of an existing item. The rod's abrasive contact would cause sparks and a flame to light from within, setting the fuse burning. by Kurz Patrone » 14 Oct 2004, 06:38, Post Later, a relief texture was added to the handle to distinguish it by touch. The Stielhandgranate (German for "stick hand grenade") was a German hand grenade of unique design. During numerous operations of the invasion of the Soviet Union, the Wehrmacht found that under freezing conditions the M24's fuse could fail to ignite. This variant is often referred to as a Nebelhandgranate (English: fog hand grenade). As a result, the production of munitions, equipment, and weaponry had to become easier and more cost-efficient. Another tactic was to tie a grenade to a long bamboo stick, for example to stick up over a wall or into a window. Instead of rolling straight down a hill or across rough terrain, the Stielhandgranate could create an axis for rotation: it would instead roll from side to side, because the charge head and length of the grenade acted as a balance. The Stielhandgranate primarily relied on a concussion blast effect, its thin metal container creating little fragmentation compared with many grenades of the time, such as the Mills bomb and the French F1 grenade, the later World War II American Mk 2 grenade, and the Soviet F1 grenade. Such grenades were the main type of grenade used by Chinese forces during the whole war. [5][7] Just like German troops, Chinese soldiers often bundled grenades together to blast open fortifications, vehicles and the like. Functionally identical to the M15, the M16 included a vital change in the base design. Post by pzrwest » 18 Sep 2007, 02:14, Post With the ends bent right over it was almost impossible to pull the pin. Discussions on the small arms used by the Axis forces. As a safety precaution, units of the Wehrmacht were advised to only insert the actual fuse assemblies when about to go into combat. Extra throw range also came in handy in such situations. This is an apolitical forum for discussions on the Axis nations and related topics hosted by the Axis History Factbook in cooperation with Christian Ankerstjerne’s Panzerworld and Christoph Awender's WW2 day by day. Discussions on the small arms used by the Axis forces. The charges of a number of M24 grenades – their handles and fuses removed – would be strapped around a complete grenade, usually with simple rope, cloth, or metal wire. To overcome these faults, various German industries during World War II produced a number of variants that widened the utility and capability of the M24. by STORMSOLDAT 8675309 » 18 Sep 2007, 01:10, Post A small porcelain ball was placed at the base of the grenade, attached directly to the pull cord. The Weimar Republic revived the Stielhandgranate, and created a new version in 1924, the "Model 1924 Stielhandgranate" (M24). The charge was a mixture of TNT and nitride potassium, and they were generally somewhat weaker than their German counterpart. Seems kinda troublesome, but the Germans still like the idea of having modular grenades that can swap between defensive fragmentation grenades and purely-overpressure offensive grenades since the DM51 from the 1970s had a slip-on fragmentation sleeve. https://www.bunkerbranding.com/pages/demolition-ranch Whistlin Diesel!!! Young Freud posted: The Model 24 and the effect but the later Model 43 stick grenade had fragmentation sleeves for defensive use. the british and american grenades used a cotter pin system to activate them. by STORMSOLDAT 8675309 » 18 Sep 2007, 01:11, Post [5][6] In 1939, a new design with a smaller handle and much more compressed explosive load began trials. As a result of this cost-effective and reliable solution, the standard infantryman of the Wehrmacht could quickly improvise a grenade with up to seven times the explosive power. 06 Jan 2018 1:04 a.m. PST. Note that it takes a serrated metal sleeve to make the german grenade anywhere near effective as a shrapnel producer. The British War Office report "WO 291/472 Performance and handling of HE grenades" gives an average figure for a standing throw of a Mills bomb as 27 m (30 yd), (23 m (25 yd) when crouched and 22 m (24 yd) lying prone). Which one could you arm and throw quickest from the belt safely? Like the Chinese grenades, it was a crude copy of the Model 1924 and a number of issues plagued its effectiveness.[7]. It made a lot of blast given it's large volume of explosive charge and less fragments from it's thin metal body, as it was to be used by infantry attacking enemy positions - and consequently, they had less cover and would be more endangered by their own granades fragments which could fly and kill up to 50 meters, as in a 'defensive' (fragmentation) granade that usually comes in a pre-fragmantated pineapple shape with a heavy metal body for extra fragmentation effect. These factors meant that infantry squads, if faced with an armored enemy, would have to close to a reduced range if they wanted to use the bundle charges. The two aren't really comparable, as they had different purposes. The german M24 grenade is the lesser lethal of the pair.Basically it was designed for offense - in that it was designed more to induce incapacitation of enemy through blast effect. This fuse took approximately four and a half seconds to reach the detonator before exploding. 1 – was introduced the same year as the German Model 1915, but due to delays in manufacturing it was not widely distributed into general service until 1916. As well one had to unscrew the 'safety cap' to allow access to the pull cord with porcelin ball to be pulled - slow and not safe to let it dangle while in belt or boot for obvious reasons. As time went on, the design further developed, adding and removing certain features. Amusingly, the assumed maximum throw range of a Mills/Pineapple grenade was … Unlike both the original German M24 Stielhandgranate and its Chinese counterpart, the Type 98 was a fragmentation grenade. This was a copy with a few expensive parts removed or replaced for easier production – and because of this, the original remained in service with Wehrmacht infantry right to the end of the war. Some examples – the German 'stick' grenade was an offensive grenade while the Mills or Pineapple grenade was an offensive grenade. But i say my personal favouret is the Stielhandgranate because of it range and it can take out hard targets like an MG nest or a bunker entruence. Founded in 1999. Post This cap concealed the porcelain bead and pull cord, allowing it to simply rest freely inside of the handle. The weapon had a pull ring attached to the igniting cord, and the fuse delay was 4 to 5 seconds (varying from grenade to grenade). by Ra6nar » 01 Oct 2007, 22:10, Post In addition to markings inscribed on the charge head, a large white band painted onto the handle distinguished it from a standard M24. The Wehrmacht lacked a proper smoke grenade to allow infantry to cover advances or retreats, or blind foes while assaulting a position. Ra6nar - if you're close enough to get a satchel charge or stickgrenade with extra heads taped round the central charge, ↳   Life in the Third Reich & Weimar Republic, ↳   Kriegsmarine surface ships and Kriegsmarine in general, ↳   Luftwaffe air units and Luftwaffe in general, ↳   German Strategy & General German Military Discussion, ↳   NSDAP, other party organizations & Government, ↳   The Ron Klages Panzer & other vehicles Section, ↳   Panzer & other vehicles - Photo threads, ↳   Axis Documents, Feldpost numbers, Postcards & Other Paper Items, ↳   The United Kingdom & its Empire and Commonwealth 1919-45, ↳   The Allies and the Neutral States in general, ↳   German Colonies and Overseas Expeditions, ↳   The end of the Ottoman Empire 1908-1923, ↳   Translation help: Breaking the Sound Barrier. During production, the metal charge head was marked with a letter K, referring to the German word Kalt (English: cold). Operation was nearly identical, except that a soldier no longer needed to pull the string itself. Well I would agree with Ra6nar, the problem with the german nade is the long time to activate them! Aside from its unique and unusual appearance, the Stielhandgranate used a friction igniter system, a method very uncommon in other nations but widely used in German grenades. The charge, however, was weak and only contained 85 g (3 oz) of picric acid (more powerful but less safe than TNT). The german M24 grenade is the lesser lethal of the pair.Basically it was designed for offense - in that it was designed more to induce incapacitation of enemy through blast effect. ↳   Life in the Third Reich & Weimar Republic, ↳   Kriegsmarine surface ships and Kriegsmarine in general, ↳   Luftwaffe air units and Luftwaffe in general, ↳   German Strategy & General German Military Discussion, ↳   NSDAP, other party organizations & Government, ↳   The Ron Klages Panzer & other vehicles Section, ↳   Panzer & other vehicles - Photo threads, ↳   Axis Documents, Feldpost numbers, Postcards & Other Paper Items, ↳   The United Kingdom & its Empire and Commonwealth 1919-45, ↳   The Allies and the Neutral States in general, ↳   German Colonies and Overseas Expeditions, ↳   The end of the Ottoman Empire 1908-1923, ↳   Translation help: Breaking the Sound Barrier.

.

Active Gear Guy Herbal Infuser, Does Mavis Discount Tire Drug Test Employees, 2014 Cruze Check Engine Light, Spiritual Meaning Of Birthright, 8 Weeks Pregnant Ultrasound Boy Or Girl, Piste Cyclable Magog, Why Does Bones Always Wear Boots, Xi Greek Letter Pronunciation, Nina Lisandrello Family, Plastic Bag On Windshield Wiper Kidnapping, Three Extremes 2 2002 Full Movie Online, Belle Stars Members,